A Rewatch
I’ll say this, the series was amazing but of course there’s many storyline/scenes in this series where i think we can agree aren’t okay. Besides that, i think you can appreciate the series for what it is, while also pointing out the wrong that’s done.I really wasn't set on a favorite character, at first it was Pete but in the end it came to be him and Vegas. While their relationship is…let’s say all over the place to put it nicely, they really do understand each other from what they’ve both been through.
Aside from the storyline, the music had me really pulled in. Everyone who worked on this music did so well and i feel it really got the feelings across whenever it was played.
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POR DIOS!! QUE CLASE DE PLACER CULPOSO ES ESTA MIERDA?!
Reseña KinnPorsche:Puntuación: 7.0¿?
°Elenco/Actuación: La mayoría de actores en la serie estuvieron muy bien, sinceramente me sorprendió con la naturalidad que se desenvolvian, Bibble (Vegas) estaba interpretando su primer papel y fue muy bueno. Algunas veces cuando tenían que hablar en inglés se notaba algo forzado, como es el el caso de Kinn el cual dejaba que desear, aún así hicieron su mejor esfuerzo y se aprecia. Mi única queja real es porque eligieron a tan horrible actor con acento italiano? Sinceramente creo disfrute tanto su muerte porque sabía que jamás lo volvería a escuchar. El Cast es SUPER LINDO, gran parte de mi cariño culposo a esta serie es por ellos, eligieron muy bien a cada uno, lit me creo que físicamente el Sr. Korn es padre de Kinn y que Porsche y Porchay son hermanos y la dinámica fuera de la serie es muy piola, además de que EN MI OPINIÓN todas la parejas tenían tremenda química, fuera de joda, esto será muchas cosas, pero eligieron actores que con la tensión sexual que emanan tengas ganas de golpear una pared. En fin que buen elenco jsjj
°Música: Con la música tengo sentimientos encontrados, porque me parece de las mejores cosas de la serie, por dios, esa intro es MUY buena y como la introducen a forma de melodia transmite mucho, también la canción que canta Jeff (Kim) es cute. Aún así, me hubiera gustado que implementaran más soundtrack, siento que a veces se hacía algo repetitivo, o sino que a veces simplemente estaban teniendo una charla seria y empezaba ya la canción y era de "ke?". Pero en fin, fuera de eso, me gusto la música.
°Producción: A ver, esta serie está mejor grabada que mushisimas otras que he visto, se nota que le pusieron empeño y no les importo gastar en presupuesto, las paletas de colores en distintas escenas estaban dentro de todo bien implementadas y las escenas con drones eran buenas. En cuanto al menejo de la camara, en varias escenas estaba bien (Ej: En el Cap 1,cuando nos muestran el paralelismo entre Kinn y Porsche, En el cap 6, cuando enfocan que Kinn y Porsche quedaron tomaron de las manos después de encontrar agua, en el cap 11, cuando Vegas le da las pastilla en la boca a Pete, o en el cap 13, cuando le apuntan con un arma al Sr. Korn y después nos muestran que es Porsche), pero habian otras escenas como las de acción donde decía "PORQUE CARAJO SE MUEVE TANTO LA CÁMARA?" Entiendo que era para generar ansiedad y tensión, pero mi ansiedad se debía a que tenía que mirar para todos lados intentando ver que pasaba, agregando algo con las escenas de acción, varias estaban decentes, sin contar que la sangre o la forma en la morían era exagerado, menos a veces es más. Sobre las escenas hot, la mayoría están muy bien hechas, realmente lograban captar las ganas que se tenían los personajes, aunque la escena del cap 7 de Kinn-Porsche en el baño es rara, media fea en cierto punto, la escena de Vegas-Pete hubiera quedado mejor si mostraban un poco más de BDSM, ya que es un poco su esencia y sacaran un poco la música para mostrar más la crudeza de la situación, pero en sí la escena estuvo bien. Los momentos románticos los sentía naturales, siento que sea como sea la historia estaban bien retratados por lo general. También, me gusta que varios gestos de los personajes se mantiene a medida que pasan los capítulos.
°Historia: OK, la historia tiene muchas inconsistencias, sin contar que es muy floja, llega un punto en el que se olvidan que también es una serie de mafia y sólo vuelven al traer el tema cuando les conviene, sin contar de que lit me sentí en un montaña rusa, ya que empezó algo lento, luego fue volviéndose más interesante, luego interesante pero sin historia, luego de repente traen de vuelta el misterio y al final te quedas de "Ke?", hay muchas cosas que me gustaría que se hubieran profundizado más (Ej: La guerra entre la familia menor y la mayor, la convivencia de la familia menor individualmente, la relación de hermanos entre - Kinn-Takhun-Kim ya que literal Kim no está nunca con ellos, a personajes como Big o Ken, ya que fueron de cierto modo fundamentales para la trama, etc)de todos modos, aunque fuera de forma básica, fue agradable que me pusieran pequeñas pistas de algunas cosas y que después cobrarán sentido (Ej: En el cap 1, cuando el Sr. Korn dice "Ahora todas las piezas están juntas" o en el cap 6, cuando Porsche dice que su tío le contó lo del accidente de sus papas y más tarde el tío nos dice que el había mentido) . En cuanto a las relaciones hay que decir que son todas HIPER MEGA TÓXICAS, llegandose a romantizar el abuso sexual, secuestro, en cierto punto la violacion, el maltrato físico y sobre todo psicológico, algunas veces te ponían música o algún otro indicio como diciendo "Che, esto está mal" pero después siguen como si nada, sin ninguna consecuencia o pidiendo disculpas pero de una forma muy sosa. En cuestión de desarrollo en las relaciones: *Kinn y Porsche, empezaron algo apresurados, pero a pesar del vínculo super insano que llevaban, se ve progreso en su relación, pero MUY DE A POCO, ya que dioooos, lo que les cuesta a estos dos comunicarse y confiar en el otro, da ganas de pegarles, podrían haberse ahorrado muchas cosas, pero fuera de JODA¡¿ERA NECESARIO QUE KINN SE COJA A PORSCHE DROGADO?! Osea, se que en su mente no estaba "Lo voy a violar" pero le chupo un huevo su estado y aunque después pidiera disculpas no enfatizaron en lo horrible de la situación, *Vegas Y Pete, su historia pasó muy rápido, lo cual es lógico ya que los pusieron recién en los últimos 4 capítulos, aún así no se sintió forzado como esperaba, pero a ver, fuera de joda Pete fue SECUESTRADO, Vegas lo maltrato mucho y Pete lo dejó pasar bastante fácil, aunque al menos acá nos hacían más énfasis en que estaba mal y Vegas debía cambiar para estar con Pete, pero igual Wtf, ese diálogo de Pete al renunciar, lo cual fue muy random por cierto y decirlo a Vegas "Yo era tu mascota" yo estaba de "PETE SOS IDIOTA?", aún así debo admitir que su química era increíble al igual que la de los protagonistas, Por último *Kim y Porchay, lo de ellos quedó MUY inconcluso, al principio lo de ellos se veía lo más sano a pesar de que literal Kim lo utilizaba para sacarle información, pero despues Kim y la caga y sinceramente espero que realmente se esfuerce por recuperar a Porchay, aunque acá todos hacen y perdonan como si nadaaa, pero en fin. En cuanto a desarrollo de personajes, esperaba algo mucho peor, Kinn es una mierda, y me desespero tanto cuando lo hicieron quedar como tonto al olvidarse de Pete y creer que estaba bien, pero aunque no parezca aprendió COSAS, que de seguro en la 2da temporada se le van a olvidar pero en fin, Porsche es HERMOSO, pero si cierro los ojos hay que admitir que el desarrollo de su personaje no fue el mejor, pero aunque era más sumiso de que me gustaría admitir me gustaba que dentro de todo le cerraba el orto a Kinn y le hacía ver cuando estaba mal, aunque había otras veces en las que era tremendo hipócrita porque le decía a Kinn que confíe en el y cuando es su turno decide confiar en VEGAS sabiendo todo lo que hizo y no en su puto novio, pero en fin, para ser de los típicos personajes "Estoy con el bad boy" me cayó bien, Takhun es un GENIO y el si me cayo mejor de lo que esperaba, Pete es mas interesante de lo que aparenta y ojala supieramos mas de el, aunque repito que la caga que se fuera con Vegas refiriéndose a su mismo como "Mascota", Vegas es alguien que desde el príncipio nos lo presentaron como un mierda, aunque eso no le quita las forradas que hizo, sin contar de que al final iba a matar a Porsche y como que simplemente lo dejaron pasar, básicamente le dejaron pasar todo y yo como de "Ke?", si, su personaje es interesante y de los que más me intriga pero no puedo sentir empatia completa por el aún, el Sr. Korn y el Sr. Gun tienen MUCHO para contar y tranquilamente podrían haberles dedicado algún capitulo, pero no, me lo ignoraron completamente, las muertes de Big y del asienstente del Sr. Korn también fueron totalmente ignoradas y me enojo mucho, la dinámica de los guardaespaldas me gustaba mucho y la amistad Pete-Porsche se me hacía muy linda y ojalá hubiera visto más, entre muchos otros personajes a los cuales odie-quise. La comedia no era mala, habían varios momentos en los que no espere reírme, varios protagonizados por Takhun, aunque también a veces no era para nada momento de implementarla y quedaba mal, ya que es una serie de mafia. El misterio siento que fue de las mejores cosas, ya que realmente quería saber que le había pasado a los padres de Porsche y aun estoy algo perdida al respecto, lo cual es obvio ya que deberán seguirlo en la próxima temporada. El fina fue rápido, no malo, solo que podrían haber cerrado de mejor manera las cosas y hacer que se entiendan mejor, ya que muchos personajes simplemente pareciera que sabían que estaban dentro de una serie y era hora de olvidarse de todo lo que pasó y yo como de "Wtf porque nadie hace nd acerca de esto?! " a Vegas lit le mataron al padre y fue como de "Bueno, que sad", sin contar de que su hacen una segunda temporada más vale que me profundicen en el personaje de la madre y no me lo dejen de la nada, porque pueden sacar algo muy interesante de ahí, pero en fin. A pesar de todo, no puedo creer lo ENTRETENIDO que era esto, en serio, toda la semana me dajaban pensando que iba a pasar, aunque lit fuera una trama inexistente te ponían 80 cosas en un capítulo, por lo que se me pasaba volando y quería que sea ya sábado y ver el que seguía, super triste.
La volvía a ver: SI, PERDÓN.
Colclusión: Es una serie de mierda, osea, la mayoría debe saber a que se está metiendo, así que solo tenes que apagar tu cerebro y observar, además yo la veía con mi hermana y una amiga y realmente nos cagamos de risa viéndola, es literal un fanfic de Wattpad hiper mega cliché hecho serie. Esto es realmente un placer culposo, es tan horrible pero tan adictivo, tan vacío pero con tanto por contar, con relaciones horribles pero escenas que sinceramente me hicieron emocionar, aunque después quisiera golpearlos. Es malo, MUY malo, pero la pase increíblemente bien mirando esto por lo que SI, obviamente estoy a la espera de su 2da temporada porque increíblemente les tome más cariño a estos forros de lo que pensaba.
PD: El Capítulo 6 es lo mejor que le pasó a la serie por lejos y sin ese capítulo mi opinión sería mucho más baja.
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It was good at first, but got only worse.
This show had a potential, but the while story was a mess. I'm not gonna lie I finished the series within two days, but some,, plot twists'' were so unnecessary, that it hurt me.First of all, thing that should have never happened, the third couple. Vegas kidnaped Pit, tortured him, r*ped him, almost killed him, but at the end they were happy together. Literally wtf? Let' s skip the fact that this thread was useless. This was wrong in so many ways. And also Pit was pretty smart the whole show, so why in the end he starts dating Vegas, the worst character in the show? I'm still trying to gaslight myself that it didn't happen.
Second of all, why did they make Kinn and Porsche cousins? To all the people who try to explain it by saying that Porsche's mother was adopted, it's still wrong. By law they are cousins even if they aren't blood related.
Third of all, the whole Kimporchay situationship. Kim was an adoult, manipulating Porchay, who was a minor, just to use him and find out more about Porchay. Yes, maybe they did love eachother or whatever, but I don't understand why people think that Kim is a green flag. I find it funny, how despite the fact that Kim was a manipulator, he still was probably the least toxic one in this show. When in the end Porchay left Kim, I felt this series got better. I was glad that they didn't made him come back to Kim in the end and forget about everything that he's done.
Fourt of all, the main couple. Kim SAed Porche, while he was drugged. Why is no one talking about it? They relationship made both of them stupid. There's this saying that the smart one's get stupid when it comes to love, and they took it literally (tbh I'm not sure if they were even smart at the beginning, but you know what I mean). So much of unnecessary 18+ scenes. If they cut them off, I think the show might have been better.
And finally, the whole story of this show. It started off intresting. I genuinely enjoyed it. After Kinn used Porche, I felt that it was getting worse and worse. I'm pretty sure that this show was supposed to be a comedy, but I couldn't help but cringe, every time they tried to be funny. Especially that mermaid scene. I was wondering how much do they pay those actors to do this shit. Also the plot twists at the end. When they started talking about Porche's parents I got so confused. In the end I didn't even now who killed them, and then they say that his mom is still alive. Again, wtf?
In conclusion, this show could be good. If they just sat down and read the script out loud, maybe they would realised that they wrote shit, and rewrite it, or pay someone to do it instead.
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First things first, I think that many people don't know what they are getting themselves into. This show is a BL, yes, but it's way darker and more graphic in many different areas (language, NSFW scenes, fight scenes, etc.). I will add some content warnings at the bottom for those who might need them.Everyone keeps talking about how flawless and perfect this show is with only minor "mistakes" and honestly... I have to disagree. While yes, the production value is significantly higher than in your usual BLs, the writing was nowhere near perfect. Just to highlight one issue: We meet Kim, youngest of the Theerapanyakul brothers and immediately know that he's up to something. He's secretive and constantly sneaks around and tries to gather some important info. It makes up the majority of his storyline. It's either him playing Kimlock Holmes or him having some boyfriend time with Chay. Solving this mystery it very tricky, so he has to be smart and careful about it. And this show really wants to let us know that he is both. But then, this plot just get's sidelined and eventually forgotten about. Suddenly it's not that important anymore and once Porsche now actually wants to know this secret information that Kim spent hours and weeks discovering, another character just swoops in and says "yeah sorry that it took me an hour and a half to get you this very secretive and important information, I was sleepy and needed a nap, but here you go". LIKE??? They did him so dirty and for what...
And no matter how many times people try to gaslight me, a mature story with criminals as protagonists doesn't automatically require them being abusers. They can be bad guys and still respect boundaries and give a damn about consent. I'm sorry, but a guy automatically loses all his attractiveness to me once they cross this line. Therefore, not many attractive men in this show for me.
This show loves to twist the plot. You think that you finally settled in and know how things work and BAMM new secret unlocked, another twist in this plot and it slowly turns into a pretzel. This happens quite a lot especially in the last third of the show. And it's intruiging at first, but I got a little tired of it by the end.
The time with our main couple and main characters Kinn and Porsche was a rollercoaster ride. I got a little fed up with them by the end. It was interesting watching them navigate their feelings towards each other, especially in that work enviroment (and the power imbalance as well). I got bored of these two repeating the same behavior over and over again. They had their cute moments but at one point I was so done with them that I couldn't even take it seriously anymore. But that meant that I had a great time the last two episodes since I just accepted whatever the writers threw at me and stopped questioning things or getting all riled up over these fictional characters. So, that's that.
The one Theerapanyakul brother that got it the worst is Tankhun. He was one of the comic relief characters that could've been really great. Even though he's way smarter than people give him credit for, he was never allowed to fully step outside of the box this show put him in. He got a moment here and there where he was allowed to be the only one seeing through everyone's bs, but in the end, it didn't matter much.
I was very concerned about the VegasPete storyline, as I only heard a few bits and pieces about it and I wasn't sure if the writers would be able to handle such a difficult topic well. And turns out my concerns were absolutely valid. While the slow built-up was okay, the ending felt rushed. I would've loved to follow Pete a little more and his inner turmoil. How he manages to accept his feelings for Vegas after everything he did to him. I found their scenes to be fascinating, but they would've benefited from more time. Their relationship starts out in a deeply fucked up way and this can easily be ruined if it's not handled with enough time and care.
But credit, where credit is due: Great production. I've read probably around a hundred posts of people making in-depth character analysis, discussing color symbolism, pointing out hints and little easter eggs, pointing out parallels, and so much more. It really shows how much effort went into making this show. The sound is good, the fighting scenes are captivating, the NSFW scenes don't feel stiff or awkward but natural and intimate. I think that it's a really great product. The actors have all great chemistry with each other and seemed pretty comfortable with each other. The music was also fantastic, they had a real banger on their hands and knew it. Also the different version of it and how they used them, chef's kiss.
The only thing that I critique though is the writing.
Content Warnings: rape, attempted rape, drugging, torture, abusive parents, so much blood and death. If you are not comfortable with these things I advice you to skip this show or find someone who can tell you which scenes to avoid.
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Very good drama
This drama have one of the spiciest scenes I've seen in BL dramas till now. Actors played it very well and fighting scenes are also great. It's a title I would re-watch because of those scenes and charismatic characters. I gave only 8 in general because I think the story developed to quickly and they would be able to make two seasons of it if only they would spend more time on each character. It would be one of the greatest BL drama of all time then for me. Music was nothing special. Not very good not bad, that's why 7. The comedy, action and spicy scenes were played very well by actors but I've seen better romance scenes that's why only 9. Otherwise it would be 10/10. Still I highly recommend to watch. Especially if someone is looking for spicy scenes.Considerați utilă această recenzie?
Beautiful, serious, and full of dilemmas
Kinnporsche is full of beautiful moments, sad moments, serious moments, and a lot of dilemmas. How should Porsche get more money? Should he really join Kinn as his bodyguard? Should he be his love? Should he stay with the main family? There are so many multifaceted problems that make the characters feel alive. On top of this, the acting is top-notch. There is a lot of violence, blood, and gun scenes, definitely the most in any BL. The finale has a lot of twists as well.Kinn and Porsche's relationship is special. They have a lot of tension and intimacy. The two actors do a great job at portraying them, and they show their love and passion very well on screen. I am extremely satisfied with the ending as well. The whole series is about as long as other Thai series, with 14 episodes of around 50 minutes. The run time is enough so that every character feels real and is realized well. I especially loved the side couple, it was so unexpected and while they were toxic in the beginning, they made each other heal and feel special. It is beautiful to see in a BL. I would recommend this BL if you are comfortable with violence and guns, as well as serious matters. This is not a sweet love story from beginning to end. There are a lot of family dilemmas and the main theme is based on mafias, so take that into account when watching. I personally do not like mafia stories too much and dislike seeing blood, but for some reason, I could bear watching this easily.
The main highlight of the series is the passion, the dramatic family ties, and the growth of their lives. The ending really ties everything together, and after watching the whole thing, It really feels like a big and important entity in the BL world.
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Like literally peeling an unsensored Japanese manga BL off it's pages.
Porsche's acting was incredible, I liked his little brother, Kim was good (his voice and storyline at least. Not sure about that acting). But They could have 1) not had rape, though surprisingly they almost admitted it was rape. 2) improved Vegas and Pete's storyline to be more clear (oh, Vegas's acting (and bi-lingual-ness) was also incredible). I think they could have added a couple lines that explained that Vegas loved Pete because he really saw him and liked him for who he was, both with and without the trappings that came with being part of the minor family (dude, you can actually be someone now that you're OUT of the minor family, you're free Vegas (facepalm)), and Pete, I think ... well I'm out of my depths, but I think Vegas opened him up to his sub/kink desires and let him embrace them and not be disgusted with himself for it. But without this context, it's kinda sick... and falls flat. With Porsche/Kinn they had such the perfect opportunity to break out of the uke/seme, top/bottom, male/female stereotypes/roles, I would have loved to see Porsche top at least once. And not for titillation, but because I came here (to a BL) to NOT see romantic and sexual relationships defined by gender roles, nay, I wanted to see them FREE of gender roles. How can I describe this. I want to see the potential of society to dismiss, nay, demolish the barriers and stigmatism that uses gender as an excuse to say women are lesser, emotionally vulnerable, subservient, and dependent, and men must be powerful and emotionless and violent. You give us a show that tells us gender doesn't matter in love, but assigning "gender roles" says that gender stereotypes do matter, that they must be maintained. It's like they're saying sexual and romantic freedom is free... but only in fiction because you have to stick to your place in your gender role. Completely reversing every freedom viewers often look for in these shows. Straight women look for sex without gender roles and a place where they can play out their desires without stigma. And queer people look for queerness. So stop assigning gender roles. Nothing but straight men are looking for that, and if they're watching this, they're hopefully questioning gender roles and sexuality as we speak. And not hate-watching something. Like what is that.Considerați utilă această recenzie?
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Thai mafia movie with !blood! And !fight! And adult scenes
This series is very great i watched it the first time and it started to be on air at first i wasn't really into it but after all the episodes were done airing i rewatched it , i enjoyed it veryyyy much !When you're a thai BL fan/lover this if for you, if you love hot and spicy scenes its also for you and if you're a lover of fight with guns! The series can be violent because of the fight and and blood etc so if your young i don't recommend it for you mostly because of the +18/21 scenes . If you're older i recommend it ! Its a awesome and very realistic series that has a lot of competence and work in it!! If you still didn't watch it go for it!!!
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For me the best BL Drama
This series offers everything you could wish for. 1. a great interesting story 2. lots of action 3. love 4. of course drama 5. great intimate scenes 6. interesting characters. All the episodes are exciting, not too long and you definitely won't get bored. You get that “just one more episode” feeling. The music was well chosen. I have re-watched Kinnporsche so many times. I can only recommend it to everyone. It’s not a waste of time. Look at it. My TOP 1 when it comes to BL Dramas. It‘s a 10/10.Considerați utilă această recenzie?
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ITS GOOD
So obvi we've all been waiting for this series for a very long time and I think it was definitely worth the hype!First, the cast was very well chosen! The complex character of Vegas was done perfectly because of Bible. I don't think anyone else could've acted this role as well as him. The rest of the cast also acted very well, especially Apo! The chemistry between each couple was perfect! Mile & Apo were an amazing pair and acted so well as Kinn & Porsche. and OF COURSE Bible & Build did SOOOO GOOD as Vegas & Pete, these roles were def made for them. LOL and I found Barcode's acting to be very endearing and cute haha. With Jeff, he's obvi a good actor but his character just didn't do it for me.
And lets give a huge round of applause to Tong, who played Tankhun. His character was one of my favorites!!!
And lemme just say I really admire all the actors for how much dedication and time they put into their roles. You can really tell that the actors became one with their characters and worked so hard to make this show the best it could be :)) sooooo honestly 10/10 for the cast and overall acting.
As for plot, there are some things I wish were different in terms of both pacing and reasoning. For example, what was Kim's purpose for the entire season? He was investigating lots of stuff but there really wasn't much of a conclusion or impact (?) I feel like his entire role was very BLAND to me. It's like the only thing he did the entire series was break Chay's heart :/
And I also wish the whole VegasPete arc was introduced a bit earlier, even just a few scenes would've helped. To me, their story felt very rushed and crowded in the last few episodes.
There are also many questions I have that still aren't answered, like why did this Ken even betray the family??? And how is Tawan even alive in the first place???? There were also lots of scenes that I felt like were a bit dragged and unnecessary.
I also think there were several plot holes. The plot and writing itself could've had SO MUCH MORE DEPTH! and tell me why there were sooooo many characters but it felt like they weren't even needed. For example, Ta! I feel like the writers could've made more use of his character! For example, showing us the relationship of Vegas and Ta as brothers, which would let us see more of Vegas's compassionate side. And on that note, WHY is there barely any scenes of the 3 major family brothers interacting!! They sat together one time during the entire series. I feel like It would've been so interesting to see their dynamics as brothers and watch them interact & work together. Or at least give us reasoning as to why Kim doesn't even speak a word to Kinn the entire show. ALSO Tay & Time!!! They were introduced but barely had any screentime so we were left with nothing in regards to their story :((
anyways.... now on to the positive side :
Even with all the plot issues, I still did like the show! I feel like overall it's VERY HARD to find such a high-production and mature BL so I'm very happy and satisfied with what KinnPorsche did :D Of course it could've been better, but I still enjoyed it for what it was and I def anticipated each episode as it was airing!
ALSOOO ----- The directors did an amazing job with their shots, some scenes were just BEAUTIFUL!!! and I LOVED the coloring that was associated with specific scenes and characters.
As for the music, MY BOY JEFF REALLY HIT IT WITH THE ONE!!! His song "Why dont you stay" was a perfect addition to this story and the lyrics explain exactly how the characters feel which i LOVEEEEE. The intro song "Freefall" for this series is also super good and goes very well with the theme !
To CONCLUDE: my overall feelings with the show
As a watcher, you do get super attached to these characters and even tho some of their decisions are questionable, you really feel for them & root for them. All of the relationships in this show are problematic in some shape or form but I think that's to be expected because of how they all grew up. It is the mafia world afterall~~ That being said, this series highlights how our childhood & relationship with parents can affect the way we grow up & treat those around us. And I appreciate that this series takes us through each character's trauma and gives us background as to why they act a certain way. I also like that many of the characters had good character development, whether it be in their relationship or within themself.
And as a plus, I think this series did a very good job in making us sympathize with even the most morally WRONG characters so I applaud them for that! Who would've thought I'd go from hating Vegas to loving him lol
And DONT WORRY------> Even with all the serious scenes throughout the series, there are still so many laughs & funny moments happening. Plus several cute scenes of our KinnPorsche couple which I loved to see :D
So yeaaa I really do recommend everyone to watch this series, especially if you're a fan of BL. It's probably one of the best BL I've ever watched in terms of production and acting :)) so do give it a watch !
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Amazing changes for the BL genre, but still lots of things to work on.
Short review:What I liked:
❣️ No heteronormativity!
❣️ No coming out scenes or dramatically figuring out your sexuality bc the same gender kissed you.
❣️ Barely any toxic masculinity. Men cried together without it being awkward or seen as weak.
❣️ The chemistry of the actors and the acting generally!
❣️ The cinematography. Some really nice shots there, especially the slow-mo scenes during fights.
❣️ Tankhun. He’s my number #1 favorite character!
What I disliked:
😬 The imbalance of the couples (top/bottom).
😬 KinnPorsche’s first times. Porsche basically always being drunk/high.
😬 The 2nd half of the series. Too many lies.
😬 PeteVegas ship. Basically Stockholm syndrome. Was very uncomfortable to watch, especially Pete, not able to let go of Vegas.
😬 Certain characters, who deserved to die, but didn’t.
😬 The whole thing with Porsche’s mother. Not just the lies, but also the way she was treated. Like a doll.
😬 Porsche’s extreme stupidity at the beginning. It was mostly for comedic relief, but at some point not funny anymore.
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Long review:
👎 First of all, the ending.
Nope, nope, nope. Don't like it. Dude gets to walk after having lied to literally everyone, while so many other pople die. Fair, no one's really good in Mafia and everyone of them deserved it, but the one who get to live, was literally the worst of them all. Even worse is that he got forgiven by everyone he lied to at the end. Lies that stretched throughout multiple episodes and created lots of drama.
👎 Imbalance:
I also really really didn’t like the imbalance of Porsche and Kinn.
It was fine at the beginning, Porsche was his bodyguard, so of course he wouldn’t be treated like an equal. But when Porsche said, at the end, “my life is yours”? Which, yes, was a parallel to the first episode, but, really? If Kinn at least had said it back, okay, that would’ve been great. But he didn’t. He just replied “I’ll treasure it the most”. Even after both being heads of the family and basically announcing they’re gonna marry, Porsche is still a level below him.
I just hate that in relationships. I’m all about balance and equality.
👎 2nd half
— Honestly, the first half was really good. I had so many butterflies watching this. But the second half... when it was all about the lies, over and over again; and typical jealousy drama with the couples... ugh, no. It stretched so long, always going in cycles, and not really that enjoyable to watch anymore.
— Especially the new ship, PeteVegas. Literally Stockholm syndrome. Pete was tortured so many times by Vegas, bled so much. And Vegas was just doing it for fun and emotional projection. Because his dad doesn’t respect him, blah blah. Sure, they had their emotional moments where they just talked, got to know each other, and that’s what trigged the Stockholm syndrome in Pete, probably. Him feeling sympathetic for Vegas, but knowing he didn’t enjoy the sex. He wants to leave, but also feels bad for Vegas. Really got uncomfortable.
— It did get emotional pretty often, though, and I often had to pause and reflect on things that were said. Mostly because it fits in my current life and simply made me think about certain things. That’s one thing I do love of the 2nd half tho. The slowness. The reflecting and thought-provoking dialogues/monologues.
— But that, of course, wasn’t the main goal of the series. It’s a BL, and while the actors were really great, the 2nd half just annoyed me in that regards. So much imbalance, and injustice, and deadly cycles... too much of it.
👎 Non-consensual
— KinnPorsche reminds a bit of TharnType. While KP is healthier than TT, the characters are similar tho, especially Kinn and Tharn. Both tops, of course.
— I really hate these words. Top and bottom. I hate it so much. When can we finally get a BL series with a couples who are both switches??
“Bros”, the Movie, did that. It was beautiful.
Why do people like the “top and bottom” roles so much?? That’s so disgustingly hetero.
— They’re also, kind of, based on rape. Porsche was drunk the first time they kissed and didn’t remember until like 2 days afterwards. He didn’t push him back and also wasn’t confused or angry about it, but yk, drunks can’t really give consent. But, okay, it was just a kiss anyway.
When they had their first time though, Porsche was drugged. Really drugged. He was totally high.
Well... it’s not like Kinn forced himself on Porsche or anything. Quite the opposite. Porsche initiated all and Kinn was the one who hesitated. But, again, he was totally high and it was his first time with a guy.
So, yea, not rape but also not fully consent. And kinda sad that both their first times were when he was drunk/high.
And the first time they did it (while Porsche wasn’t on the verge of passing out), it was also after he has drunk a lot. (There was consent tho, but not much.)
👍 Apologies/consent
While their first times did start non-consensual, Kinn did apologize for it. Even said if he could turn back time, he wouldn’t do it a 2nd time.
— Which TharnType for example never did. Not once was it acknowledged in the other series that Tharn half-raped Type.
— And, when KP did each other the first time (although Porsche was half-drunk, but awake enough to give consent), Kinn did ask, kind of, before opening his trousers. It was more of a nod but clear enough for anyone.
So, yea, that was great.
— After that, there was always consent present. And a lot of apologies for other things.
👍 No homophobia
— What was really great though, is that there was no single mention of homophobia and no coming out scenes. Everyone in the business knows Kinn is gay, and no one makes a comment regarding that. It’s simply normal. It’s not treated as special and no one even looks differently when two guys kiss.
— Even though Porsche had only fucked girls so far, he didn’t freak out when he noticed his feelings towards Kinn. He just let it happen. That was refreshing. No 5 episodes wasted for the main character to dramatically figure out his sexuality.
He was just like, “oh he kissed me... Damn... Well, anyway. I’ve never done it with a guy, but I like it, so let’s just continue”, basically. So, so refreshing!
— But also the side couples. There was never heteronormativity present. When a guy confessed to another guy, they weren’t like “uh? What’re you doing? I’m not gay”, but simply reciprocated it. Or kissed back, without pushing them away. (Well, unless they generally weren’t in the mood for kissing, but not because of the gender.)
— Only once a sexuality of a character was mentioned, and that was Kinn, being openly gay. You don’t know the sexuality of any other character.
And that’s beautiful. I’m not a fan of labels anyway, so living in a non-heteronormative and unlabeled world, that’s the goal.
👍 Actors/acting:
— And the actors were great. The chemistry between the couples was intense and fire, but also the chemistry to other people. They all looked like they had fun shooting this.
— It also felt really natural. Not acted. Awkward scenes felt awkward, not because of the acting level, but because it could’ve been a scene from real life, not scripted at all. Like when you dwell in memories and then there’s this random awkward conversation you once had, and you get second-hand embarrassing of yourself.
👎 humor/stupidity:
Another, rather minor thing, I didn’t like or it was just really annoying: Porsche’s stupidity at the beginning. Dude really got no brain, only muscles. Really wondered how tf he’s still alive. Must be his charming aura, otherwise he’d be dead by now.
I get that this was mostly for comedic relief, but at some point it really wasn’t funny anymore. Just stupid. In an annoying way.
— And then they call Tankhun crazy and dumb for being different? That brother may be different, but certainly smarter than Porsche. Which especially got to show around the ending when Tankhun was the only one to notice Pete’s absence being unusual.
— Porsche did have his smart moments tho and by the end also grew some brain cells. Probably from experience in the job. But yea. Empty head mostly. Talks and smiles a little too much.
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i feel like the outliar...
i decided to watch this series after seeing it some many times in people's lists of best bl in 2022. and i was pretty disappointed to be honest.PRODUCTION:
everything look and sounded nice. i actually do wanna applaud the costuming for this series i loved all the outfits of the characters. the action scenes were also a lot of fun to watch it makes me wish we had more.
STORY:
was... all over the place. character motivations seemed to change on a dime and one second its serious drama and the next it sex jokes. i really was about to drop this series because i was midway through and had no idea why i was still watching. also. sexual assault is not hot why are we still doing this in 2022??? also the ending just seemed to throw everything out the window.
CHARACTERS:
porshe and kinn are really the saving grace and the only reason i finished this series. porshe especially was the only character i liked in the beginning. it wasnt till episodes 6&7 where i actually started to enjoy the series (which - since this is a 13 episode show is like midway through). for a show called "kinnporshe" i dont really feel like they took up the space they needed despite being the best out of the couples. and despite that it was still hard for me to get on board due to episode 4!!!!!! again - why are we doing shit like this is 2022. also i do have to say porshe gets flanderized a bit towards the end. i really dont understand his actions and miscommunication troupe always sucks cant people ever come up with anything else to create conflict?
unpopular opinion but i dont like vegaspete. i DID like them. in the BEGINNING before FUCKIN SHIT HIT THE FAN. the fact that so many people like this relationship is not helping me see the good in the world. this is probably the most toxic relationship i have ever seen in a bl. im glad their series is probs being canceled now we do not need more of them.
kim and porchay were absolute messes. they had potential for sure but porchay himself kinda ruins it with how annoying he is and suddenly kim doing a 180 on how he feels about him. like i get the idea and im not sure this is an acting issue or a writing issue or both??
honestly i wouldve liked one of the couples to be kinn's friends instead they were a lot more interesting.
CONCLUSION:
i know im being really negative - there was quite a bit that i liked but i feel like soooo much holds the series back. but idk i really only see people praise this show. and i really just dont get it.
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