TharnType (2019)

somethings can't be fixed with tears and forgiveness

That is probably a quote from the Bible. Anyway, I started this show like a month ago, because I wanted to see why everyone hates Tharntype. This gets so much hate, and I want to see if it is warranted. I could see why because of the plot. It's a mad controversial in that aspect. But those sketchy edits you see on YouTube shorts never actually tell you why the drama is controversial. I am anti-description, so it took me a hot minute to actually understand what was even happening in the show.

This show is fucking dark, and nobody talks about it. Type is annoying, and I actually couldn't stand him at first, but I came around. His feelings towards gay people were warranted. I am not homophobic, and I am bisexual myself, and I love me some gay rights, but I understand where he was coming from because he was so young when he was sexually assaulted. That shit will fuck you up for life, bro; that's crazy. But Bro was dropping slurs like it was a religion. That was crazy. types feelings, and everything is understandable. I think that it is bad to classify a group of people as something just because you had one bad experience. But I understand why he would do that, because the experience was a really bad one.

I watched episodes 1 through 5 like a month ago all back-to-back, and I finished the show today watching 6-12 back-to-back, and I feel like I watched two different shows. The characters became so much more likeable, and I was just having fun watching them banter back and forth. I am going to look at my close friends to see what I was actually thinking while watching it, because that's always fun.

I can't find when I started the show, lol. At 1:09 a.m. on June 7th. I wanted to know why everyone actually hates TharnType, so I started it. Type was being homophobic and going on his little rants, and I was already annoyed. When he was sleeping with his eyes closed and mouth shut, he was so cute. just not when he has his mouth open and is talking. Then Type, just like me, started having an identity crisis because of his hot roommate. Two wrongs don't make it right. I know why the show gets hate. It's overly dark and built off a dark plot. At 2:31 am, I started to feel bad for Type because of his upbringing and everything that had happened.

Then we met the siblings Thorn, Tharn, and Thanaya, who we all love to death, and they are the best trio in this show, bro. We love them. Most things in the show are Techno's fault because he actually can't keep his big mouth shut. If techno shut up, we wouldn't have this show. Type starts shifting into hating gays but not his boyfriend. because apparently him being with a man and having sex with a man wasn't gay in his eyes? Make that make sense? It just doesn't. Then I took a break from the show for a month, because I totally forgot about it until the random letter wheel picked it for me today.

I posted today that bad comments aren't real and I just need to watch shows and get them over with even if they are unbearably bad. And that's what I did. I was going on rants about how annoying the type is and how most things are his fault as well, because he can't keep his pretty mouth shut and has to put his two senses into everything, like I am doing now. Type was smacking Tharn; personally, I wouldn't let that slide and smack him back, bro.

Seo and Klui were my favorite next-door neighbors, and they for real need their redemption, bro. They were great, and I loved them to bits, especially Seo and his Koreabo ass. Klui was just confused and very nosey, and they were both the representation we needed.

Tharn and Type are becoming more compatible with each other, and they are starting to openly flirt with each other, and I think that was cool to see.

They met San's pedo ass, and no one ever talks about him, but he was out here having sex with a 14-year-old, which is 10th grade in Thailand and 9th grade here. and San was in 10th grade and Tharn was in 7th grade when they met. So he got groomed by him for sure. That was really, really gross.

Type and Tharn start being extra toxic, and they are both loving it and stuff like that. Type is coming to terms with their relationship, his feelings, and how he is doing overall.

Then Tharn says some shit about tar to tum, and that had me thinking for the rest of the fucking show. Tharn said something about Tum liking Tar more than a brother, and I was like, no fucking way, and Tum tells him to shut up and walks away. No one talks about that. That would have been a crazy twist, bro. And it just gets swept under the rug, like what?

Then everything starts to spiral, and I start having a crisis. You think, Oh, they are doing well now, and everything is fine. Nope, it's a Thai drama. Fuck your feelings. Lhong's twist, bro; that's why I titled the review the way it is. Bro was crazy. That's why the review is higher than a 7 because of the last two episodes. They caught me so off guard, and I like predictable shows, but when they are unexpected or not what I thought, that makes me even more happy, so good on the writers.

Overall, their relationship was and still is a mess because they lack trust and are both the most jealous people to ever walk the Thai drama boys love earth. Maybe if their personalities didn't crash and they didn't fight over everything, they could have gotten together sooner and stayed happier longer in the show. Yeah, that's my take. I am going to watch Season 2 and the special episode because I am just going to knock all the tharn-type stuff out and then move on instead of coming back to it like 4 months later and being hella confused. I understand the hate, but at the end of the day, it was pretty well written, and the actors did one hell of a job; it was interesting. But at the end of the day, it was really dark drama, and people need to talk about that more, bro. This was hella long; that's my fault. Okay bye!

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Trigger Warnings Everywhere!

Please be aware this show and review contain trigger warnings about sexual assault, abuse, and homophobia.
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STORY:
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When talking to most BL fans who have been around for a while they will praise TharnType as a BL classic. To most it is. Why? I have no idea.

The basic premise of the story is Type is a college freshmen in the Sports department and he finds out that his new roommate Tharn is gay. Type then lets us know he hates all gay people because he was kidnapped and molested as a child. Okay logical. Should he hate an entire population of people because of one person who was evil? Of course not, but one can't choose their trauma responses so I give him the benefit of the doubt. He then proceeds to make Tharn's life a living hell to get him to leave the dorm. To be honest the first few episodes are terrible. Type is not a good person. He is so homophobic that as someone who is LGBTQ I wanted to go into the screen and smack him so hard for the things he did and said.

As the show progresses it seems that out of nowhere about half way through the show Type throws his entire homophobic agenda out the window and falls for Tharn. Yay this is good the show should be better? Wrong! Now instead of dealing with his homophobic attitude we are left with a man child who whines and complains until he gets his way. He manipulates Tharn so many times into doing what he wants and how he wants it that I almost and I mean almost feel bad for Tharn. I will get more into my problems with Tharn in the next section.

Overall the show is a horrible representation of the BL genre. It promotes unhealthy mindsets towards people in the community. Romanticizes sexual assault and bullying and wraps it up in this package of because the men are hot and have chemistry it's okay.

If you want a better representation of what it looks like to be a sexual assault survivor and enter a relationship go watch Love In The Air starting at episode 8 for Pai and Sky story.
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ACTING/CAST
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Mew as Tharn - Overall I thought Mew did a good job at playing Tharn. Other than the blaringly obvious fact he was in his mid-twenties playing a teenager his performance was spot on. I did feel heartbroken for him near the end of the series as Lhong's plans started to unfold and he found out the truth about what his "friend" had been doing behind his back.

However, the character of Tharn is one I can't wrap my head around. Why is this extremely handsome, insanely rich, music major so tied up on his roommate Type? In 12 episodes he never once tells the audience what it is that attracted him to Type in the first place. Why did he put up with Type's homophobic, controlling, manipulative, and honestly abusive self when he could have had so much more as a character? Furthermore, why did he come to Type's defense in front of the school after Type went viral for making homophobic remarks?

Now while it may seem like Tharn is a victim of the story he is nowhere near the good guy people make him out to be. On more than one occasion he forced himself upon Type by kissing him, giving him a blowjob, and trying to have sex with him in public against Type's wishes. How is this the foundation a happy relationship is built on. To be honest if he wasn't an adamant top I would have shipped him with his brother's best friend. At least he loved and cared for Tharn.

Gulf as Type - I hate Type as a character so much! What he does at the beginning of the show is horrible. I get it he was sexually assaulted as a child by a gay man so he holds certain prejudices. However, at some point you have to learn to let them go. I only say this as a victim of sexual assault myself. For the longest time I couldn't be alone in a room with a guy without having a panic attack but I worked through it and now I'm okay. Also I am ashamed of his parents for not getting him help at a younger age.

Putting aside his homophobic rhetoric, I would love to say he redeems himself but he doesn't. He all the sudden is okay with Tharn being gay and the show turns into this whole thing about "I'm not gay but my boyfriend is." I'm so sick of BL shows showing the "straight" guy who is only gay for one man. That is not how the LGBTQ community is.

Type is also extremely abusive towards Tharn emotionally and verbally. He is constantly telling him that he hates him and while some find it endearing I couldn't be with someone who is constantly telling me I'm worthless. He also is incredibly jealous to the point of violence. He does what he wants when he wants to and if Tharn has a problem with it then he can honestly get over it. If I met someone like that in real life I would have run the other way.

Kokliang as Tar - What can I say about Tar other than I feel so bad for him. So many people talk about how annoying Tar is and how horrible he is for what he did to Tharn. However, I look at things from his perspective. He was happily in love with Tharn and then was sexually assaulted by a group of men. Of course he shut down. Of course he broke up with Tharn. Who can blame him. The depressive obsession he has with Tharn is natural to me. He still loves Tharn but is stuck in this constant loop of what happened to him. The show doesn't dictate how much time is passed but based on context clues I think it's been less than a year since he and Tharn broke up. If that is true of course he is still navigating through his trauma. If we were to have met him 3 years or more after the breakup then I could see maybe people's point of view.

Mild as Techno - This was the saving grace of the show for me. Techno was the character that gave us some much needed comic relief. He tried his best to be a supportive best friend to Type but wasn't afraid to call him out on his bullshit either.

Kaownah as Lhong - To say I hate a character is really strong for me. But, I hate Lhong! How the hell did he not end up in jail by the end of the show. Not only did he try to kill Type....but he also hired the men who assaulted Tar. How could Tharn and Type let Lhong go with him simply dropping out of school? You are letting a sociopath free to roam the streets. You know he's going to latch onto someone else soon and so the same thing again. The last couple of episodes were hard to watch for me as his evil deeds were revealed.
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RELATIONSHIPS
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Tharn x Type - Oh lord I could go on for hours about these two. Their chemistry while amazing was the only thing about this couple. Unlike many early BL's (which is strange to say since this was released in 2019) the couple actually kissed each other. For many this was the KinnPorshe of early BL. I digress though....I wrote a lot about their relationship above so I'm not going to rehash it out. If you want to watch two hot men make out for six episodes you will enjoy it. If you are looking for a good, healthy, representation of a relationship please move on.
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REWATCH VALUE
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I would love to say I haven't rewatched this show but I have a few times. I kept thinking if I watch it again it won't be so bad! However, each time it only gets worse. For those of you who rank this in your top 10 I appreciate your candor. For me this is a hard pass now. I doubt I will rewatch this again.

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My friends also recommend me with this. At first I don't feel the chemistry at all! The reason why I continuing this because of the story and it captures me... but while watching episode 8, it started me to fall in love with the characters because they learned themselves and they change themselves. The story is an incredible plot twist! I love it! The ending satisfied me well. Especially their special episode it satisfied me more. I will not going to re watch this because I just don't feel to watch it back hehe rather than "2gether" . I also love their ost! It's interesting and its catchy for me. Well as you can see this series is not recommended for the minor person, it has a lot of hot scenes haha!

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One of the best!

I really love this series! It is one of my favorites. I have watched it multiple times. First of all, Mew and Gulf's chemistry is honestly off the charts. I love them. I really love the storyline and the development of their relationship. I will be honest, it is really frustrating at parts. There are parts where i want to jump into the screen and shake some sense into Type. I also am not a huge fan of the the Tar and Tum story. Rewatching it, I typically will fast forward through their parts. Man the love scenes in this one are amazing. I love the love. The way Mew and Gulf play off of eachother is amazing. They just fit perfectly together. I also really love the music in the show. I would most definitely recommend this show! Its one of the best BL dramas I have seen, and i have seen a lot of BL dramas.

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Watching the first 6 episodes, I was kinda bored with the story which felt slow and pedantic. I didn't find the characters interesting either so I stopped watching only to come back to it after watching 'The Untamed.' As it is one of the highest-rated Thai BL series, I had to finish it to make a final judgement. I found the series to be too earnest, too heart-on-the-sleeve, too poised which makes it feel unnatural, and too unrealistic like how Type fell for Tharn so quickly or how . Also, the amount of sexual assult in the first few episodes was shocking and kinda turned me off. The series does deal with internalized homophobia so props for that, but I wished that they delved deeper into that topic. It would have been cool if they mentioned the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality and that in a gay couple, neither has to be the 'wife,' but it is understandable that they didn't as it would have been quite complex. This series is quite heavier and dark than other BL shows as it deals with rape, murderous jealousy, pedophilia and mental illness, but unfortunately just skims it. Overall, it was slightly entertaining though I did watch it on 2x speed. The story just didn't grab me as the previous BL shows that I've seen (The Untamed, SOTUS and 2gether).

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Okay tharntype. I love the plot. Its kind of cliché from hate to love but personally I don't mind it and I really like it. It's amazing how well Gulf portrayed type being a new actor, and Mew's acting made me cry so many times. Their chemistry is so good as well. Tar's character annoyed me at first but he ended up redeeming himself. And Lhong my favorite character. He might have been a manipulative mastermind, but he was a very develop and interesting character. I feel in love with him throughout the series then started to hate him. The character is so evil but everyone ends up aching for him. The actor that portrayed him was beyond talented. I've rewatched tharntype so many times have never got bored of it.

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THARNTYPE IS THE BEST AMONG OTHER THAI BL SERIES. The story starts FATAL and will give you goosebumps as following the story of two mortal enemies being LOVERS. The story and the whole series will bring you sets of emotion, to be exact, a Roller Coaster of Emotions!! It will make you feel the love, it will give you pain, tremendous happiness and moreee. AND THE HUGE PLOT TWIST THAT YOU WILL DISCOVER IN THE END IS SUCH A BANG AND IS VERY THRILLING!! This series set the bar high! This is way better than the UPCOMING SERIES and the LEGENDARY SERIES. This series is ICONIC. MUST WATCH!! AND ENJOYABLE!! ❤️

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TharnType Will Keep You Very Interested!

One of my favorite BL series hands-down. What I love it that it doesn't deter from difficult topics, they are quite sensitive so be careful if you're sensitive to that stuff. They include flashbacks of sexual assault, as well as discussions about this as well. It's very upsetting stuff, however it makes for a believable character in Type. Whom is very unlikable at the beginning of this show, he's homophobic and quite cruel to Tharn at the beginning. However, when its pieced together why it makes sense. Usually I hate the hater-to-lover trope in any show, but in this series it makes sense. Type has internalized homophobia, built up anger from suppressing those feelings of fear and disgust, and difficulty accepting Tharn as anything but a monster because that's all the interactions he's had with gay men his entire life. That one experience can change a person completely and the show really captured that. Now I'm not saying it's not problematic, because in certain scenes it is. However, they are understandable to the plot so its made up for by that fact.

This show has great acting and chemistry between the leads Mew (swoon) & Gulf (like dang it's believable) and actually shows a couple go from pretty toxic/not great to really healthy and sweet. Definitely some of the best character development I've seen in a show in Type. It's presented well in the flash forward scene, as well as in the special movie that came out after the series ended! Type became a completely different character (with some feisteniss still in him of course) and that's why the series worked. If he had stayed the same and didn't grow, I wouldn't of liked it so much. I found myself not being able to stop and had to keep watching because the story is so captivating. It's paced very well and doesn't leave room to breathe. I literally cried at the twist plotline towards the end with Lhong, wow was that some good acting. Some of the best I've actually seen in television I think! It was heart wrenching, what a great antagonistic character to shock the viewers with. Whom I was told has no backstory in the novel, so good job writers! I felt so badly for Tharn dude, that guy didn't deserve to be hurt by his best friend like that over and over again. Also poor Tar too of course!

Other than Lhong, we also get other great side characters, especially in Techno (love him so much) and Tharn's brother Thorn (cutie). The music for the show was also better than a lot of other BL series romances I've watched. It's catchy af and of course having Mew sing in the series definitely was a plus, though Kao (Lhong) is a really good singer as well! Can't wait to see what season 2 has to offer!

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Please know that I understand that not everyone will identify with every part of my review, this is just my own thoughts based on my experiences:




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This series definitely is now my number one. I have problems with the character of Type and his treatment of Tharn who honestly loved him but I also the sweetness and how he evolved. Everyone is complicated and comes from complicated backgrounds which colors their view of the world. What matters is whether they see the difference and choose to be better. While Type was cruel and selfish in the beginning he evolved and changed and in the end Type came to love Tharn just as much as Tharn loves Type and that is the most important fact.

I can not put into the words the emotions I felt during the make up scene in Part 4 or the bar scene in part 5 or the end of part 5, it's honestly overwhelming to see love portrayed that way. P'Mew and N'Gulf have chemistry that is palpable and I will ALWAYS be thankful that they were cast in the leads. They did extraordinarily well portraying the love of these two characters. It makes you hopeful that maybe you can have something close to that. Some to look at you the way Tharn and Type look at each other, with such overwhelming and enduring and everlasting love.

I am excited to see if they make a second series, I hope they do. I'm also excited for the future of both P'Mew, who I'm really happy came back into the spotlight and chose this series as his first time back and for N'Gulf, who chose this series as his first BL series. I'm also thankful for Khun Mame for writing this book and producing this series. EVERYONE worked so hard and this was evident in every part.

Again there are no words to describe the how much love I hold of this series, I am not above saying that I cried in both of the last two parts due to sheer emotions that again were all based on the chemistry between the characters . It was beautiful and emotional and uplifting and heartwarming and overwhelming. It blew away ALL my expectations and I can not fathom not rewatching it hundreds of times over while awaiting the second series.

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Love is love, don't mind the gender !

Is difficult to make a review for this, is one of the few series that I like to rematch. It somehow comforts me.
Because love is unpredictable. Because Type character is not a drama heroine who needs protection and saving, he is a man and he shows that.
For those of us who read the novel is a little bit disappointing, not because we want to see in detail all the XXX scenes, but because we are lingering for the more intense feelings.
The OST is great, here are the 2 main songs :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GErIL_x2ucw&list=PL1LdzvvpQJSAQT_ZSmkVAB8jaRFQjvjWJ&index=31&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVVjoDp8kc&list=PL1LdzvvpQJSAQT_ZSmkVAB8jaRFQjvjWJ&index=32

What felt strange is some of kissing scenes, especially Mew, just didn't felt natural and i love both Mew and Gulf.
On the long run I look forward to see how Gulf will develop, I see him more like dominant than Mew.

I totally recommend it. I'm eagerly looking forward for the season 2.

Enjoy it !

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