La Pluie (2023)

Suivre ou confronter sa destinée ?

« De nombreux films parlent d'histoires d'amour. Mais vous savez pourquoi on ne se lasse pas de les regarder ? Car chaque film parle d'une histoire d'amour différente. L'amour est une histoire. Le message de l'amour est facilement transmit aux spectateurs car tout le monde sait ce qu'est l'amour. Je veux que vous trouvez quelle histoire vous voudriez raconter. Brisez l'enveloppe d'une belle histoire avec de superbes effets visuels, pour revenir à l'essence même de votre histoire que vous voulez raconter. »

J'ai adoré cette réplique parce qu'elle est représentative de La Pluie. C'est une histoire d'amour qui remet en cause l'idée des âmes-sœurs dans une romance simple et qui n'a pas besoin d'énormément d'artifices pour fonctionner.

Je ne suis personne pour imposer ma définition de l'amour, mais je pense honnêtement que peu importe la personne avec qui on est, la relation doit rester amusante d'une façon ou d'une autre. Et à un moment, Saengtai et Phat ne s'amusaient pas ensemble, puis ils ont retrouvé cet amusement si caractéristique d'une relation amoureuse.

Alors, je ne vais même pas essayer de ne pas le faire parce qu'il faut en parler : l'intimité des personnages. C'était magnifique... Les scènes intimes étaient sexy et belles. Les baisers étaient renversants (je peux vendre une partie de mon âme au diable pour de tels baisers dans des dramas). Ces scènes étaient incroyables avec une belle ambiance et un respect mutuel qu'on a rarement l'occasion de voir.

Contrairement aux autres personnes, je n'ai pas trouvé de « trous béants » dans l'histoire. Il y a quelques étrangetés ou des directions qui sont sans surprise (cf, la montagne). Mais rien qui ne m'ait empêché d'apprécier ce drama. Certes, plusieurs points dans l'intrigue auraient dû arriver plus tôt, notamment à la scène entre Lomfon et Saengtai. Pourtant, c'est plein de tensions. Ce moment où Saengtai entend sa voix, lorsqu'il se retourne et où ils s'observent. La scène est incroyable, mais elle aurait dû se produire bien avant. À ce moment, il ne reste que deux épisodes. C'est trop peu...
D'ailleurs, j'ai aimé la réaction de Phat suite au baiser. On brise l'image de l'homme parfait, d'autant plus que Phat l'avait prévenu. D'accord, je ne cautionne pas la violence, mais comme dit précédemment, le mignon chaton peut aussi devenir un tigre féroce.
À côté, la scène suivante entre Thian et Lomfon est aussi pleine de sens. L'un accuse, l'autre est blessé. Puis soudain, les rôles s'inversent. Entendre Thian partager ses sentiments m'a broyé le cœur. Pfiouh !

J'aime beaucoup l'idée d'une deuxième saison. Tant pour le final de Thian, que le fait d'avoir laissé Phat et Saengtai. Les quelques questions en suspens pourront peut-être trouver leurs réponses dans cette possible suite. La Pluie n'est pas parfait, j'ai passé un très bon moment. C'est un drama que je peux facilement revoir dans quelques mois, et peut-être que je découvrirais de nouvelles choses.

En bref, la pluie est un phénomène ravissant et le drama lui rend joliment honneur. Malgré ses imperfections, c'est une plaisante romance où l'idéologie d'âmes sœurs est remise en question sans pour autant discréditer quiconque.

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Good if it had half the episodes - Saengthian is the reason I'm giving it a 7

I won't waste much time doing a lengthy review, I'm just here sharing my 2 cents.

Saengthian and the brothers relationship is the only thing that made me unable to give it lower than a 7/10 (actually a 6.8 but oh well). Saengthian turned out to be my favorite character in this series, even if I found him a bit childish in the beginning.

Good start but what happened in the last few episodes??? characters changing personality completely, tons of stuff left unexplained, bad choice of narrative - what directing was that?

I actually really liked it at the beginning and questioned the rating in here but I get it now. So much potential lost!? There were some beautiful shots along the way but overall I could blame the directing for most of my issues with this show. The random cuts here and there, the amount of plot holes/missing scenes, the weirdest camera angles at times, the instructions given to the actors during certain scenes (episode 10 I'm looking at you), etc.

Oh and don't even get me started on the writing. What the hell was this universe? Setting rules and set truths just to break them with no explanation? I started watching this show because it has the same screenwriters as My Ride The Series - which is a very beloved series of mine, especially when it comes to character likeability. However, I feel disappointed.

Also, the Saengtai in the show synopsis, "the man who dislikes strangers and talking to people unnecessarily" is advertised at the beginning but never makes an appearance. If he dislikes strangers and talking to people unnecessarily so much, how come everyone and their mother becomes his friend? How come he immediately gets along with Lomfon or Nara? With Nara, they even comment on it, as if that didn't happen with every single one of the other characters. If you're going to try and create an introverted character with leftover trauma and rarely goes out - then make it believable. Saengtai, who dislikes strangers, doesn't like working at the office but spends his day in a bustling coffee shop instead? He, who dislikes going out, is rarely seen at home during the day? Come on T-T

When finishing episode 6 I was wondering what they would do to fill up 12 episodes - for me the series could've ended with 6 or 7. If the show ended without the amount of things happening starting from ep 7, I would've given it a higher rating.
I'm sorry, but I can't make myself forgive the mess the last 5 episodes were. 6.8 is already too high for this show if I were to focus on those - but I'm focusing on the good moments this series actually has - like Saengtai and Saengthian's brotherhood, Dream's friendship, Nara's maturity, Bow's concern, etc. I'm not gonna lie, though reluctant to keep watching in between ep 8 and 9, then after ep 10, I still kept coming back and I was hooked every single time.

Overall, if you don't know what to watch to pass time, you can watch this one. But if you have a ton of better things to watch, I would not make this a priority.

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Worst direction and writing. Annoying dumb ML

This is the most pathetic direction and writing series I have ever watched in Thailand drama. So much annoying flash back. They leave the current situation and again and again fall in flash backs. On repeat basis. Seriously it's so annoying. Why they can process the story in normal way. I had to fast forward it again and again. And now the main lead. He is so annoying. Any random person can kiss him in the middle of the road and then he expects his boyfriend to be okay with it. Seriously????. Is this a joke. Then this annoying soulmate thing. After wasting my all Saturday off, I hate this series. I was watching it just because of taien. Sorry but I don't like it at all.

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It was an all-time favorite... till it wasn't. Enough holes to swallow me up.

La Pluie started out on a fast track to being an all-time favorite of mine. It started out so strong. The aesthetic and cinematography of it all caught my attention before a word was even spoken. Then we got that gorgeous monologue overtop Tai riding the bus in the rain. We're told immediately what kind of fantasy world we're getting into. A world where people believe in and even trust in soulmates - because on your 20th birthday, people with rain-affiliated hearing loss can hear another person, and only that person, so long as both of them are in rain at the same time.

An interesting premise. Made all that more interesting by the fact that our main character is stubbornly refusing to acknowledge his soulmate. And that his parents are divorced, despite being soulmates themselves. It had all this set up to create a memorable message about not putting all your faith in destiny, that relationships take a lot more than love to make work. A message that they did exceedingly well throughout.

I fell in love with our 2 main leads immediately. And was giddy when ever they were on the screen together - with all the adorable awkwardness of getting to know and getting comfortable with each other. They were respectful, fun, and very cute together. They both had insecurities stemming from their pasts, as well as all the miscommunication/misunderstanding trappings that a new relationship and those insecurities are prone to. In theory, this all fit who the characters were. Tai, who learned from a young age that talking before things are resolved doesn't do anything. Who prefers to solve things on his own. Patt, who reached out for love and acceptance, and got shot down with silence instead - making him wonder if he's worthy of the love and acceptance he sought out. But when push came to shove, when it was time for the writers to deliver, it felt out-of-character. In one singular fell swoop, it undid all of the progress, development, and communication the leads had had prior.

The major support characters were also so fun. Tien was an adorkable brat and fantastic (and accurate) little brother to Tai. I wish we got more background to why he was so pettily antagonistic to Lomfon in the beginning, but by the end I was solidly sold on the Tien and Lomfon couple. They were equally as adorable as Tai x Patt when they let themselves relax, and they had the benefit of similar interests and passions to keep them talking, even when they clashed.

We even got a lesbian couple! One that felt pretty natural, even though they had very little screen time. But I am a little bit salty that the other pair of girls, who got quite a bit of screen time, did not become a couple. In fact, they gave one of them a HEA with a character we never even saw or heard about! Even if they didn't put Bow in the lesbian couple they seemed to had been hinting at, they could've ended her story in a different way that didn't feel as out-of-left-field. Even just her flirting with a coworker or thirsting after guys as usual. In a story where we literally get told that love can come in several forms, it felt artificial.

But the thing that really put a sour taste in my mouth and changed my overall view of the story isn't any of the above oversights and pacing changes. It's not even about the fact that it started feeling like a different screenwriter took over in those last few episodes. But rather the fact that we have several plot holes.

In episode 1, minute 1 of this drama, we get told how this world works:
- Certain people have a form of hearing loss where they can't hear anything when it rains (as suggested by the fact that everyone knew Tai had hearing loss already before the rain on his 20th birthday, and that he apparently never heard the sound of rain before).
- These people with hearing loss start to hear their soulmate on their first rain after turning 20 years old.
- That hearing loss is irreversible.
- That everyone is only able to hear 1 person

But suddenly, Lomfon spontaneously develops hearing loss. Spontaneously, Lomfon can hear Tai. And Patt. And Patt and Tai can hear him. No where near a birthday that we know of either. Oh, and spontaneously, you can just yell to the universe that you don't want the soulmate bond, and suddenly you won't have it anymore.

Absolutely none of this is questioned. None of this is explained. None of this is even pondered. In fact, in the last few minutes of the drama, we quite literally get told that it doesn't matter. "In the end, the hearing-loss and soulmate stuff are still questions that no one has an answer to. Rather, no one chooses to find an answer anymore." That love is all that matters.

I'm sorry. I'm all for making us and the characters question how the world works, but you don't get to just set rules for the world, break them, and expect us to be content because everyone gets a happy ending. That's not how worldbuilding and writing works.

And the fact that technically, Tien and Lomfon don't have a happy ending yet. Because, what do you know? Tien suddenly, spontaneously develops hearing loss and a soulmate bond too! And not on a birthday!

There's also a few smaller plot holes. Such as how Patt knew where to go to see Tai - when that was not Tai's usual café. And no one knew Patt was going there/went. Also, Patt apparently has had a long-time desire to resign and open up a vet clinic in rural Thailand? That definitely wasn't set up in the story. But the reason for it's existence was apparent: gotta have a good ol' ill-placed and ill-timed tourism ad for that final episode.

I love these characters. Some I loved almost immediately. Some, grew on me as their characters shown more depth in the story. And I loved that this drama didn't go the typical "villain" route, even while it did go the typical "misunderstanding" route. For probably 75% of it's runtime, this drama was a favorite. I was in a rush to get through the week to see the next episode. I scoured every corner of the internet for fanfictions and fan-edits of this story or similar premises. And I still highly recommend it. But I don't know what happened in those last few episodes. The writing went downhill along with the plot conflict's impact on the happiness of our leads. It stopped being thought out, and it shows. But can a terrific start truly make up for a lackluster ending?

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I really enjoyed this series. The cast is simply adorable. I have loved Title ever since TharnType 2 and Saur since You're My Sky. While I didn't really recognize he rest of the cast, they did a fantastic job in conveying their emotions and rounding out the characters. The storyline was definitely unique and interesting, and the screen writers did a great job keeping things moving in a timely manner. The music was okay, but maybe a little old fashioned for me personally. I really enjoyed the scenery and all the different parts of Thailand they helped us explore. While the makeup did get a little heavy handed a few times, it wasn't so overly done that it took away from anything. All in all, well done.

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Não é que eu não tenha gostado, mas acho que a história se perdeu em alguns momentos, e deixou outros sem explicação algum. Até achei a atuação do elenco boa, mas não curti o ator que fez o papel de Saengtai: vi trechos dele em um fanmeeting, achei ele arrogante, com todo jeito de quem não curtiu fazer papel em um BL...mas gostei bastante do ator que faz o Phat. Fiquei esperando um arremate para o casal secundário, que não veio e parece que nem vai vir... a produção é bacana, a direção também...faltou mesmo só dar uma "ajeitadinha" na sequencia da história ...

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провалено

Какое было начало. И я уже готовая "о да детка, сейчас расскажут историю подобной "Цветовая лихорадка" с рассказом об особенности человека, воспринимающейся как болезнь", но нет... Очередной слив. Предпосылка была отличной. Новой, интригующей, интересной. Начиная с 7 эпизода что-то пошло не так и уже с 10 эпизода я просто сидела и говорила: досмотри это безобразие и забудь. Хотя бы досмотреть, что там с второй парой. 11 эпизод - это вообще полный бип, можете даже не смотреть - там вообще не о чем. Много вопросов все-таки оставили:
что же там в семье Тая и всех кто владел этим даром "родственной души". Что это вообще за феномен и есть ли он на самом деле, если это не шум дождя так действует, то что? Смотрела из-за Ломфона (Коптера), но и его роль завалили. При прекрасном актерском составе, хороших локациях, дать шанс на пересмотр - нет, исключено. Очередное разочарование от Таиланда. надеюсь я не увижу второй сезон, жаль потраченного времени.

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incongruenze, buchi di trama, normalizzazione di comportamenti violenti

molto deluso da questa serie in quanto l'inizio sembrava promettente, ma lo svolgimento è peggiorato di episodio in episodio fino ad arrivare agli ultimi 3 davvero disastrosi.

La premessa fantastica delle anime gemelle è stata gestita pessimamente, non approfondendo nulla al riguardo, e contraddicendo più volte quanto detto precedentemente. Il messaggio finale, che non conta il destino ma l'amore di due persone, è piuttosto banale e non servivano 12 ore di incongruenze e buchi di trama per arrivarci.

La faccenda del divorzio dei genitori di Tai è ridicola: Tai prende la notizia del divorzio come farebbe un bambino di 10 anni, e alla fine si rende necessaria una scena estenuante in cui i genitori gli spiegano, come farebbero ad un bambino di 10 anni, delle ovvietà riguardanti le relazioni che per vari motivi possono finire anche se può continuare a rimanere stima, affetto, o anche amore reciproco.

Ma la cosa peggiore è lo stravolgimento dei personaggi nell'episodio 10: senza alcun motivo Tai mente più volte a Phat; da parte sua Phat mostra un comportamento rabbioso del tutto incoerente con quanto visto in precedenza, e prima aggredisce selvaggiamente Lomfon, e poi urla in maniera esagitata nei confronti di Tai. Successivamente, credo il giorno dopo, si presenta a casa di Tai per chiarire, dopo aver bevuto, e di nuovo non riesce a dialogare e si mette ad urlare contro Tai.

Seguono altri malintesi ridicoli e atteggiamenti da prima cotta delle scuole medie: Tai aspetta passivamente che sia Phat a cercarlo; Phat si lascia convincere dai suoi amici a chiarire con Tai, ma poi lo vede parlare al bar con Lomfon, conclude che Tai e Lomfon siano in una relazione e decide di lasciare tutto, casa, lavoro, amici, per trasferirsi in un'altra città e ricominciare daccapo. Non mi sembra che sia necessario commentare quanto tutto ciò sia assurdo.

Alla fine Tai si convince che è stato lui a sbagliare perchè doveva dare più spiegazioni a Phat, e che quindi deve cercarlo per scusarsi e riprendere la loro relazione. Quindi parte per cercarlo, impiega buona parte dell'ultimo episodio per trovarlo con svariate scene inutili e non coinvolgenti, poi lo trova, fa il suo discorso di scuse, Phat lo abbraccia e quindi si rimettono insieme. Anche questa scena, che dovrebbe essere una scena emotivamente forte, in realtà non trasmette nulla ed è noiosa oltre che sbagliata. La scena è sbagliata perchè l'errore di Tai non è stato quello di non dare maggiori spiegazioni a Phat: in entrambe le ultime due occasioni in cui hanno parlato Phat era estremamente esagitato e non era nelle condizioni di parlare (nella prima aveva appena preso a pugni Lomfon, nella seconda era ubriaco). In queste circostanze è stato corretto rimandare la discussione ad un momento in cui entrambi fossero in grado di dialogare senza urlare. L'errore di Tai è stato innanzitutto quello di mentire a Phat, e di questo sicuramente si doveva scusare con lui, e poi quello di aspettare per molto tempo passivamente che fosse Phat a cercarlo. Ma anche Phat ha sbagliato, ed è per questo che la scena della riappacificazione è sbagliata, perchè in questa scena è solo Tai a scusarsi: Phat ha aggredito Lomfon con estrema violenza, ha urlato contro Tai, il giorno dopo si è presentato a casa di Tai per chiarire e gli ha urlato contro di nuovo, poi anzichè cercare un chiarimento in maniera matura e senza urlare, molla tutto e scappa senza lasciare recapiti neanche ai propri amici. Tutti questi comportamenti (oltre ad essere fuori dal personaggio) sono molto sbagliati, ma nella serie sembra che siano comportamenti accettabili e nessuno ha niente da dire al riguardo, nè Tai, nè Lomfon, nè Thian, nè gli amici di Phat, nè Phat stesso, che non fa nessuna autocritica.

Oltre alle incongruenze di trama, ai personaggi che si comportano in maniera inverosimile e fuori personaggio e al messaggio sbagliato che aggredire fisicamente qualcuno e verbalmente qualcun altro non sia niente di male voglio soffermarmi su un'altra cosa molto fastidiosa della serie, ovvero il clichè per cui qualcuno vede qualcosa proprio nell'esatto momento in cui quella scena può essere fraintesa, e ovviamente la fraintende senza farsi nessuna domanda o chiedere altre spiegazioni.

La prima scena di questo tipo è quando si mette a piovere e Tai sente Phat baciare qualcuno (si tratta della sua ex che cerca di recuperare il rapporto). Siccome Phat gli aveva detto il giorno prima che era innamorato di qualcuno, Tai conclude che Phat sia innamorato della persona che stava baciando. Ovviamente questo equivoco non ci sarebbe stato se avesse iniziato a piovere giusto 5 secondi più tardi.

Altra scena: la ex di Phat lo raggiunge al campo con l'intenzione di recuperare il rapporto e ad un certo punto lo bacia. Chi è che arriva proprio in quell'esatto momento fraintendendo tutto? Ovviamente Tai. Se fosse arrivato 5 secondi prima o 5 secondi dopo non ci sarebbe stato nessun fraintendimento. Inoltre se avesse chiesto a Phat di parlare per chiarire le cose non ci sarebbe stato nessun fraintendimento. Invece scappa via e tenta di scalare il monte da solo cadendo in un burrone e slogandosi la caviglia.

Altra scena: Lomfon bacia Tai. Chi è che arriva proprio in quel momento? Ovviamente Phat. In questa circostanza Tai è già nel torto in quanto ha mentito a Phat sul fatto di trovarsi in compagnia di Lomfon, ma ovviamente trovarli che si baciano per Phat è la realizzazione delle sue peggiori paure. Se fosse arrivato 5 secondi prima o 5 secondi dopo probabilmente non sarebbe successo nulla di quanto accaduto (Phat che aggredisce Lomfon e urla contro Tai), e Tai avrebbe chiarito con Phat sul fatto di avergli mentito.

Altra scena: Phat ha intenzione di chiarire con Tai, ma lo vede al bar a parlare con Lomfon. Dalla prospettiva di Phat sembra che Tai e Lomfon siano molto vicini e in atteggiamento intimo, ma in realtà stanno solo parlando. Anche qui stessa cosa: Phat poteva arrivare poco prima o poco dopo, ma è arrivato proprio nel momento esatto per fraintendere, proprio quando Tai e Lomfon si stavano salutando e si erano avvicinati e dalla prospettiva dove si trovava Phat il tutto era equivocabile. E di nuovo Phat fraintende subito tutto senza farsi altre domande e senza pensare di chiedere chiarimenti.

Queste scene sono ovviamente dei clichè che abbiamo visto in tantissime serie o film, ma già una sola scena di questo tipo è di troppo, perchè si tratta di un qualcosa di estremamente irrealistico per la tempistica e di deleterio per la caratterizzazione immatura dei personaggi. In questa serie ci sono svariate scene di questo tipo, e oltretutto i personaggi, oltre ad avere una puntualità fuori dal comune nell'arrivare sempre nel momento giusto per fraintendere, reiterano sempre lo stesso comportamento immaturo saltando subito alle conclusioni sbagliate.

Tra le cose positive segnalo solo il personaggio di Thian, che mi è piaciuto molto (sia l'attore che il personaggio) e alcune belle scene tra Thian e Lomfon.

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Uma relação de amor e ranço com essa série

Mais uma série que eu amo odiar. Revi ela por esses dias, e minha opinião mudou (um pouquinho só) para melhor.
Graças a Deus que o casal principal tinha química, pois sinceramente, foi o que salvou a série... apesar de muito fofos, serviram uma pegação deliciosa, além de abordarem a questão do consentimento, fiquei fã do Dr. quando na primeira vez que o clima esquentou e ele mesmo se conteve, pois queria que seu amado tivesse uma primeira vez especial, com plena certeza do que estava fazendo.
Sinceramente, o plot de almas gêmeas me assustou (depois de Gen Y eu fiquei com trauma), mas eu até que gostei, até que o roteirista ficou louco e começou a incluir muita alma pra pouco corpo. Não foi necessariamente o fato de Saengtai ter duas supostas almas gêmeas que me incomodou, e sim a falta de uma explicação para isso. E ainda fica pior com aquele final péssimo em que Saengtian descobre que também tem alma gêmea (????). A tal coisa raríssima nem era tão rara assim.
Fiquei confusa sobre o salto temporal da história. Pq diabos se separaram por tanto tempo? E se o Dr. já sabia que Tien ia atrás dele, pq não facilitou?
Tem pontos muito positivos: não fizeram da ex do Phat uma vilã apesar do que aconteceu, a relação dos pais de Phat que só foi de fato explicada no final, a aceitação de todos, enfim, minha pergunta mais recorrente é o pq dos trios de almas gêmeas e pq alguns só desenvolveram na vida adulta. Obs: também poderiam ter desenvolvido o GL das meninas né?

A atuação foi boa, a ost é linda, a produção é boa em todos os sentidos. O que realmente faltou foi um roteiro melhorzinho.

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Lost Then Regained Interest Towards the End

Ok I have a lot to say lmao. Firstly, I want to say compared to some of the other recently released Thai BL's, I think this one is one of the better ones I've seen. With that being said, this series was a good at first but I then slowly started to lose interested towards the middle and then regained interest towards the end of the series. Let me explain.
Ok, so I think the plot was very original. I don't think I've seen another BL series with a similar plot. But I think about 4-6 episodes in I noticed the main characters are literally self-sabotaging to the point where it's kind of ridiculous. For example, with Lomfon and Saengtien, Lomfon continuously goes after Saengtai when quite literally everybody else in the series is telling him not to. Also, I think Saengtai also self-sabotaged because there's no way he couldn't tell Lomfon liked him. Even when Beau told him that Lomfon liked him he completely disregarded her observation. I think Phat self-sabotaged in the end because instead of listening to Dream he ran away from his problems.
Also, the lack of communication in this series is actually wild. None of the main couples in this series know how to actually communicate, from Phat and Saengtai, Lomfon and Saengthian, to the parents.
Overall, though I did find the lack of communication and the constant self-sabotaging slightly annoying, this series actually wasn't that bad and there were a lot more good scenes than bad ones.

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