TharnType (2019)

I can’t describe how happy and appreciate for all the work they have done. They did beyond the best and I appreciated how they made this drama.
Story, music, climax, drama, actors you name it. All of them got me and they’re the best.
I like how they twisted the story and caractère and make it perfect. I am
Looking forward to watching the second season. I have watch 3 times in 2 months time :-)

Caractère :
Type : At first I don’t like how type treated tharn but he has his reason behind all that. He seemed very mean but inside he is good guy. Gulf did his role very well and suit him. I am very happy with performance.
Tharn : is very cute and I love when he is playing drum and singing. Like type said that’s his sexy part and I freaking love it.
Techno : awesome and nosy friend. Love him here to play the carachter.
Lhong : awesome and excellent antagonist. Thank you to the director who explain in the scene why long had to do this kind of bad things
Nic and Kla are another my fave
Champ : I think perfect for No
Seo & Khlui : give them more scene
Tum & Ta : I thought they’re weird and I was kinda guessing how their relationship to each other but at the end I understood after I watch Love by Chance.
I love all of them and I can’t mention one by one.

Story line :
No boring, exciting, funny, tense, cry whatever in it has the perfect and best ending of any drama. This is my first review ever and I made this account to appreciate their work and I will keep doing from now on. Tharntype is the best.

Soundtrack :
Love all of them especially: hold me tight acoustic version and be mine.
Music when sad, happy, comedy tense are all excellent.

Writers in movie and novel :
You’re absolutely amazing and thank you for this work and I can’t thank you enough.

Kuddos all

I am just loving the BL series recently especially from Thailand. Well done.

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My friend forced me to watch this... Hanna, but thank you so much because it was truly amazing. Also because it is our last year together I commemorate this review to you. We had a sleepover and we watched the whole series.

To anyone who is reading this, the actors are amazing and it's juice, just saying. The story is so interesting and emotionally attaching. The best part is how good the actors took their roles so seriously. I seriously had trouble understanding what was going on but that was of course not a problem when I had my dear friend next to me, who could explain everything and rewatch the whole series with me. Hope you also will enjoy it as much as I did, but also giggle your heart fluttering and cry your heart out. :D

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This is by far the best BL drama I've ever seen and has a place in my heart as one of my most favorite drama's I've ever seen. I feel in love with everything about this show. I adore the story and the grow each of the characters go through. Type has he's big arch however, I like that Tharn has his own flaws and thing he has to work through. This had become one of my favorite couples in any drama I have ever watched, I feel completely in love with them. All the side characters are mainly there to serve to the main couples narrative and I think that choice worked for this series to many subplots would have taken to much of the already limited time away from the main couple and I feel that in this series I would have been to the shows detriment. Lastly not to spoil anything the villain was so well handled and that story line had me at the edge of my seat. The casting was phenomenal. You can feel the chemistry between Mew and Gulf and I would love for them to do more together. The acting in the last two episodes of this show from them had me literally crying. All the characters that were recast from LBC were phenomenal and brought something different to the roles while still feeling like the same characters from LBC.
However, It must be said that this show tackles some very serious topics and while I think it was well done I can see how some could be triggered by it and have different opinions and that is completely understandable.
Overall this is now one of if not my favorite BL of all time. Would I rewatch it Absolutely!!! I'm already planning to multiple times. I cannot recommend this show enough.

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I think that my main problem with this drama was the abusive relationship depicted in the drama. Many of the scenes seemed very illegal and bordered sexual harassment. However, the drama made no effort to point out that the scenes were wrong and extremely hurtful. Instead, they continued on showcasing similar scenes and labeling them as romantic. There seemed to be almost no character development as Tharn would continue harassing and taking advantage of Type, and Type continued being short tempered and physically aggressive.

My second major problem with this drama is the main antagonist of the story, Lhong. Throughout the drama, he showcased no signs of ever having ill intentions towards the protagonist of the story. When the truth comes out in the last couple episodes, it comes as a surprise, but not a very good one. Furthermore, when the conflict comes to a conclusion, his punishment is laughable. All of the characters seemed to completely forget the fact that he hired people to rape someone. You would think that he would at least be sent to jail for the severity of his crimes, however, it is written off with the excuse that he wasn't loved enough. I disliked the fact that they tried to get the viewers to pity Lhong. They failed to show that there is no excuse for rape.

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This show is sending some seriously unhealthy messages

I'm fairly new to BL but was hooked from the beginning by Wish You, SOTUS and 2gether (#teamtine #brightwin4ever). TharnType came up on a lot of recommended lists, so I was a little shocked and pretty concerned when I started watching.

The main characters relationship is seriously unhealthy. And I don't mean in the cute, coming to terms with my feelings normal drama. I mean when you force yourself on someone or physical abuse them in fits of anger and jealousy without it ever getting called out, that's a huge problem for me.

Violent, jealous, controlling people are not good partners. They are people who need some help because that's called abuse not love.

I am very disappointed if this is what passes unquestioned in the BL fan community. There are a lot of good romantic, funny series that are waiting to sweep us off our feet without having to glorify or normalize spousal abuse.

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Dont think I want to rewatch it

The trailer was on Netflix and then I thought why not watch this BL drama which was made more than a year ago. I had no expectations, and since it had only 12 episodes, I thought: okay, I may be able to finish it in a day or two. I enjoyed the first few episodes: a homophobic guy living on-campus with a gay roommate. Then I could just guess that they will eventually become a couple, but will have to go through a stormy relationship (just like Sotus, My Bromance and 2gether; all three were my favorites).

But as we get to the later episodes, I find the drama lacking substance, a bit dragging and boring. Oh, they could have just made this into 8 episodes, I think. Other reviews here have already mentioned why the storyline is problematic: the sex scenes which were not completely consensual and Type's childhood trauma which suddenly magically disappeared after episode 3.

I don't mind about the ups and downs of their somewhat toxic relationship (toxic from both sides) and the jealousy and possessiveness of both Tharn and Type, which puts more "drama" into this drama. But how come the development of each character were not given enough justice. It would be great we could see Tharn as a musician, instead of a "nice patient boyfriend" who actually can only think of sex. But we only saw him play the drum twice during rehearsals and one show in the bar.

What I found annoying was Tar and Tum at beginning episodes. Who the hell are these guys? There was no hint at all of who they were . Why do we have to watch this older guy picking up a high school student at school? Also the lunch scenes at home. I had no idea what their relationship was. Were they brothers? Lovers? Whose house was this? No parents at home? One scene showed Tum receiving a phone call from Mom, and that was it. Then Tharn bumps into Tar in episode 9 or 10, Then it was like: "Oh okay, now I see who the boy is".

The drama had so many un-mended holes in the story. Some scenes could just be taken out. Dinner with Tharn's family was not only awkward but also artificial. When Type met his childhood friend back home, the friend came out to him being gay. Then what? Oh I see, this was just a pasted scene. Nothing significant. The fighting scene on the last episode was the worst. Assuming this was on-campus (all five boys were still wearing uniforms), weren't there any security officers around?

Anyway, I think the actors were great. They played their roles well. I would love to see each of them in other dramas. About this one? I don't regret watching it, but I don't think I would like to spend time re-watching it either. I'd rather watch My Bromance The Series, SOTUS, and 2-Gether over and over again :-)

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I didn't know that this was taking place before Love By Chance, so I didn't have any prior expectations, bias, or anything before starting this series.

I believe that this title is probably the best BL title in a while. Of course, it's a personal preference, but let me tell you why I think you should watch this and won't be disappointed, especially if you are familiar with other BL stories.
The story plot is often seen in BL's - we have the usual confident gay, and then we have the insecure gay that hates gays and such, but then, in the end, he turns out to be gay too. Nevertheless, I believe that this series was successful in making everything more exciting. You'll see the up and downs of a relationship, supporting friends, evil friends, multiple plot twists that will leave you "oh my god? Seriously??" (in a good way but I won't spoil anything) and everything you can experience in real life.

The relationship between Tharn and Type is a bit toxic not to say a lot, but don't worry - it develops in a good way. Plot and character development it's a good thing.

Now the acting, damn amazing. I enjoyed all of the actors. If you need new actors to add on your favs list, then give these gems a chance. That's the only thing I can tell you. I don't think I ever got bored in the whole 12 episodes and actually surprised that I laughed at the comedy that they threw in because usually jokes in Thai dramas are just cringe or not funny. It's a bit sad that they didn't address some character's story in the end because of too little time (not really but let me be nice since they made a good series haha), but it's still a series that's going to keep you hooked from episode 1.

If you are the type of person that is like "omg! BL's is always about rape. It shouldn't be a thing. It's uncomfortable blah blah" then yea don't watch this series. I'm aware that the story or excuse of rape is used in a lot of BL's novels and absolutely not acceptable, but I don't think in this case it ruined the series. I think that they did a good job addressing and showing the consequences and impacts that rape has on people and why it's wrong. Then again this is my personal opinion, so yea... You have been warned.

Anyways, all in all, you won't regret watching this drama. You get a good and interesting plot that kind of breaks away from the clichés (leaving behind the rape part). You get good acting, lots of kissing and bed scenes for the people interested haha. You won't be bored in these 12 episodes.

ps. if you are still unsure about starting this or not, then take my advice and just watch it. once you start watching it, you'll see that you won't regret it

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I really wanted to like this show. It has a few things going for it that we need more of in queer media, namely: a gay character who is open and confident in his sexuality but not relegated to a side role or comic relief, genuine chemistry between the leads, and the kind of physical closeness that's standard in depictions of straight romances. Much of the cast is also capable of delivering solid performances during key moments, and the editing is pretty solid as well.

However, TharnType manages to drop the ball in almost every other conceivable way.

The director seems only capable of delivering sensuality effectively—and even that is unfortunate when the sensuality is during a scene where consent is dubious or completely absent; dialogue which was awkward to begin with is also delivered in a way that's stilted and unnatural.

The writing consistently left me either cringing or dumbfounded. I often found myself asking "Who talks like this?" or "Why the hell doesn't he _____?" Characters frequently say or do things solely to serve the plot and not for any recognizable motivation, and even the main plot arc feels completely unnecessary in the end. Some character threads are started and then just left by the wayside until the post-series special, with zero attempt at closure within the series itself.

In the end, it all comes down to the portrayal of the central relationship for me. We're supposed to be rooting for them to be together, but that's difficult to do when much of their interaction is built on physical aggression, a lack of respect for consent, and jealousy and mistrust. This show deals with heavy topics like childhood sexual abuse, prejudice, and rape, but it does so without any of the subtlety and finesse those issues require, and problems like physically striking one's partner (in the face and and in the crotch) are just handwaved away without ever being dealt with.

I have zero issue with the portrayal of unhealthy romances in media (I'm a big fan of NBC's Hannibal, for instance), as long as they're portrayed skillfully. This show broke me. Finishing the last episode was like pulling teeth.

If you're looking for a show to watch without engaging any critical thinking, maybe this one could be enjoyable. If you're like me and can't turn the critical thinking off, you'd be doing yourself a favor by finding something better to watch.

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Honest Review
Story - 9/10
Mame build her reputation through out the years she's undeniably great at making this kind of stuff, but of course there will be sex scenes which is not bad. The series did not focused on the issue of rape they just regret it and make the story more intimate as always. They don't tell what happen to the characters that suffer the mental capabilities hope this will be clear on s2. ADDICTION TO SEX?? this is one of the flaw of this series. I like that the antagonist is a male for long time till now always female are use to make a great villain. The plot was totally good aside from disregarding the fact of rape. The hidden agenda of one of the characters he it me like a truck it's unrecognizable at first but if when i looked on the poster. OH MY GOD this bitch creep me out.

Acting/Cast - A solid 10/10
The chemistry that they have given is one of the best in this genre. Gulf is not new in this industry he knows what he will do. Even though he has a girlfriend it's not the case he performs his character with greatness. Let's go back to the series he perform really well. Mew he performs really well the care he gives to tine make him more attractive for the audience. When I see Mew on the series I think this is a gamble because Mew came from a really bad series but it paid off later soon.

Music- 10/10
DAMN. They created really good music when i hear "Be Mine" and "Hold Me Tight" it brings some tears on my eyes they really nailed it. It reminds me the pain, the thrill and the emotions that this series gave t me when it's airing. The chills are still there.

Rewatch Value - 9/10
This section is where this series lack the potential. The series has a great plot and you can only watch it once. You will know who is that and why is that like that and it feels like the thrill factor is no where to be found.

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consent, consent, consent...

This story brings real problematics about traumatisms, wich is an unusual theme so I liked it and I loved the plot twist. Actors are good and that's why the feelings are transmitted to us easily, whether it's sadness or love. Sex scenes are probably ones of the sexiest of all bl series and it's mostly because of the wonderful chemistry between MewGulf
The extreme negative points that comes to darkens this beautiful story is the fact that TharnType are really too jealous from one another and it's toxic. Also, the fact that Tharn actually force his desire on Type at the beginning made me extremely uncomfortable.
PS: People really need to STOP saying they understand the antagonist, you clearly wouldn't say that if he wasn't handsome so stop being hypocrite. He is a douchebag!

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Sproloqui prima di andare a nanna

Questa recensione mi è molto difficile da scrivere. Ieri sera ho finito di leggere la novel da cui è stata tratta questa serie iconica e, nonostante mi sia fatta una grassa risata (e dopo aver chiesto il reso dei miei nove euro), posso dire che questa è una storia proprio, ma proprio brutta. Brutta brutta brutta.

TharnType è considerata la “ciliegina sulla torta” delle serie BL Tailandesi, e se ti è piaciuta la serie buon per te! A me francamente no, ma è un altro discorso, possiamo comunque essere amici.

Leggere la novel è stato un parto gemellare, ma è per via della combo letale dislessia + orrori grammaticali (no, seriamente, chiunque sia stato a tradurre deve ricevere una multa salatissima; tra il passaggio dalla prima persona alla terza NELLA STESSA SENTENZA a tutte le volte che un personaggio veniva misgenderato — he/him a she/her — e alla costruzione grammaticale dove i verbi e i soggetti e i complementi venivano sbarellati in tutte le direzioni… NON MERITI I MIEI SOLDI)

… però se ci fosse stata una rivisitazione seria e non approssimativa, poteva uscire un prodotto sicuramente migliore.

Perché? Lo spiego in breve. TharnType a differenza di Not Me e Bad Buddy — ma come altre serie ispirate da libri — è un riadattamento *fedele*: stessi personaggi, stesso universo, stesse catastrofi. Ogni scena tra la coppia protagonista presente è presente nel libro.

Vorrei comunque soffermarmi a parlare di due situazioni in particolare:

1) Type non viene indicato come un “omofobo” ma come un “sessista” e… no, sono due cose differenti, perché mai gli dèi delle parole avrebbero creato due termini per specificare lo stesso concetto? Type è omofobo, punto, non riempiamo di zucchero il cucchiaio per addolcire la pillola: non è il primo omofobo di questo pianeta e non sarà l’ultimo, solo perché poi diventerà gay non significa che non abbia avuto pensieri maligni verso altri omosessuali che non sono Tharn — sì, perché la storia è che Type odia i gay, ma è gay per l’uccello di Than, il solo e unico.
2) Tharn è per metà Tailandese e per metà Americano (bianco) e mi ha fatto una rabbia leggere la scena di quando porta una torta a Type, e quest’ultimo — insopportabile in TUTTO il libro — fa un commento tristissimo:


Tharn: *regala torta al cioccolato come pegno di scuse* Non volevo offenderti, Type. Ho pensato che la torta al cioccolato ti si addica.

Type: Perché sono nero? Sei solo un cinguettante straniero.


Nella traduzione viene utilizzato il termine *black*, e mi chiedo… Khun Mame: 1) sei Tailandese 2) hai volutamente creato un personaggio che descrivi come pallido (Type) perché lo vuoi far passare per nero?????? 3) vuoi far arrivare questa uscita infelice da parte di un ragazzo che è per metà Tailandese, di cultura Tailandese, con costumi Tailandese… ma che vuoi comunque definire “straniero” (con accezione negativa). Nella sua testa doveva essere una battuta divertente — a me ha fatto sbellicare non perché fosse spassosa, ma perché ha voluto aggiungere del razzismo in una situazione dove non ci stava.

Tharn che Type sono insopportabili, sia nel libro e di conseguenza sia nella serie. Trovo che i loro personaggi siano bidimensionali: non hanno nulla di attraente nella personalità, se non il fatto che sono declamati da tutti come due persone di bell’aspetto — cosa che però non riguarda la personalità, quindi sorvoliamo. Non hanno qualità, non hanno pregi, le uniche due passioni che vengono specificate sono la musica per Tharn e il calcio per Type, ma non sappiamo nient’altro.

Non riesco ad entrare in empatia con loro, neppure con Type che ha subito un trauma infantile che l’ha portato a odiare gli omosessuali — da fanciullo è stato abbindolato da un lavoratore ingaggiato dal padre che l’ha legato e toccato.

È giusto empatizzare con lui, ma mi è proprio difficile dal momento che questa storiellina è stata buttata lì SOLO per trovare un motivo per fargli odiare i gay: non poteva essere un semplice omofobo ignorante, no, Khun Mame doveva inserire l’abuso infantile per poi abbandonarlo dopo che Tharn e Type hanno rapporti sessuali frequenti e con discorsi del tipo… che già dopo il loro secondo incontro fisico parlano di non usare il preservativo e se ne vanno in ospedale come una coppietta per fare dei test. Il senso? Vuoi creare un personaggio che ha ricevuto molestie sessuali in età giovane da parte di un uomo adulto, e lo rendi subito a suo agio con il sesso con il suo compagno di stanza gay che per giunta detesta? Questa è logica.

Superare un trauma è una buona cosa: affrontare i demoni del passato, non cedere alla depressione, risollevarsi dopo un brutto periodo… peccato che Type e la sua famiglia NON abbia denunciato il molestatore — per timore che fosse passato per una povera vittima… cosa che lo è — e che non abbia fatto alcuna terapia per metabolizzare il trauma subito e proseguire la propria vita con un tenore migliore.

È inconcepibile che proprio Type stesso — il ragazzo che ha subito molestie — decide di concedere a Tharn la propria verginità anale per non essere in debito con lui (non starò a spiegare il motivo, ma Tharn lo aiuta a risolvere una questione e Type non vuole dovergli nulla).


Type è veramente un personaggio scorbutico e non ha una sola qualità per poterci coltivare affetto: oltre ad essere chiamato costantemente “bello”, ha una ristretta schiera di amici e OGNI volta che deve interagire con altri esseri umani sembra abbia la scopa su per il culo… la timidezza non è la fine del mondo, se non fosse scritto sulla locandina che è un tipo spigliato e amichevole. Bho. E per non parlare di quanto sia violento — sia verbalmente che fisicamente, non so voi, ma se bisticcio con degli amici o con la compagna non mi metto a tirare ceffoni o pugni per far valere la mia opinione… cosa che Type fa più di una volta.

Sapete quando era giustificato ad usare la violenza? Quando Tharn — dopo aver scoperto che il suo compagno di camera è un etero omofobo — abusa sessualmente di lui… massì! Diamo al personaggio con precedente trauma psicologico e fisico motivo di interfacciarsi con uno stronzo che gli forza la propria sessualità masturbandolo senza il suo consenso. E con il termine abuso non intendo solo il fatto che lo tocchi ripetutamente senza il suo volere, ma intendo anche dalle puttanate che gli dice, di quanto “sia bravo a letto e che presto lo scoprirà…” e tutto questo i produttori l’hanno fatto passare come cosa sensuale e per far bagnare il pubblico di ragazzine che si strappano i capelli per le ship homo.
Tharn è il personaggio che meno ho apprezzato, ha questo alone di perfezione che lo circonda — decantato da terzi — che risulta stucchevole. Una scena che ho odiato — penso nessuno abbia messo in luce — è come la sorellina, Thanya, lo veda come un Dio sceso in terra: questa stronzetta con la puzza sotto il naso, dalla famiglia ricca, un fratello maggiore che le insegna la nobile arte del pianoforte e con occhi solo per l’altro fratello fuori casa per l’università. Non ricordo quanti anni abbia esattamente, ma è in età prepuberale; ha un atteggiamento da principessina sul pisello e risponde malissimo a Thorn, il fratello maggiore, solo perché lo spettatore deve vedere quanto Tharn sia perfetto!!!!! Un bravo fratello!!!!!! Un bravo figlio!!!!!! Perché Tharn è meglio di Thorn, Tharn è speciale e Thorn no, Tharn sa suonare la batteria, Tharn ama la musica, Tharn ha una band, etc, etc. Thanya è solo una viziatella ed è inutile alla trama. Quando un personaggio non aggiunge nulla alla storia, vuol dire che è inutile: Tharn potrebbe anche essere figlio unico che questa storia andrebbe avanti.


La scelta degli attori è oltremodo ridicola: due ragazzi diciottenni che vengono interpretati da adulti che non sembrano affatto adolescenti… uno quasi trentenne (all’epoca delle riprese) e l’altro che nonostante sia agli inizi della ventina, ne dimostra mooooolti di più. I MewGulf sono tra le coppie più shippate dai vari stan del web, ma questo lo so per la valanga di video correlati durante la settimana in cui ho fatto binge-watching. Tuttavia, dopo aver letto il libro, potrei quasi affermare che non siano i volti giusti per il tipo di personaggi descritti. Tharn doveva essere un ragazzo Tailandese e Americano, ma posso comprendere che non ci possa essere molta richiesta nell’ambito attoriale al momento.

La recitazione *non* è il massimo; per quanto mi vogliono far credere (: i miei amici appassionati del drama, specifico) che mentre si baciano, copulano e fanno le coccole sembrano veramente affiatati, ai miei occhi non è così. Qua parte uno dei miei primi pregiudizi, ossia che Gulf, l’attore di Type, mi ricorda un personaggio di qualche vignetta di Tullio Altan, e non riesco a prenderlo seriamente. Purtroppo, al povero Type gli vengono affibbiati appellativi femminili — questa cosa roleplay moglie/marito solo perché sono fissi nella posizione top/bottom deve finire, le coppie non hanno questo standard “uomo/donna”, è una etero-normativa che mi disgusta: essere donna esattamente cosa significa? Comportarsi da isterica come fa Type? Essere colui che lo prende nel didietro?


La verità è che questo è un prodotto per tutte quelle fujoshi/fundanshi che hanno una visione per il mondo queer come scenario per le loro fantasie sessuali. Noi gay abbiamo il diritto di avere una rappresentanza sullo schermo quanto gli etero, ma è dannoso pensare alla comunità Lgbtq+ come pozzo per parafilie decorate da abusi.

L’uomo che ha abusato di Type non è una merda poiché gay, ma è una merda per aver abusato di una persona, con l’aggravante che l’abusato si trattava un ragazzino; NESSUNO nella serie ha fatto accenno a questo… solo al fatto che fosse un uomo con perversioni verso gli uomini.

Se volete farvi una risata, comprate il libro formato kindle su Amazon: preferisco leggere delle seghe mentali di una donna adulta su due ragazzi piuttosto che pensare che da tale sega sia stata sviluppata un’intera serie di successo per i motivi sbagliati.

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